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Award for Poland abortion woman

News Type: Event — Seeded on Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
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A Polish court has awarded $11,000 (7,400 euros) in damages to a woman likened to a child killer by a Catholic magazine for wanting an abortion.

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Red Wolf

The article also compared abortion to the experiments of Nazi war criminals at Auschwitz.

Alicja Tysiac had been warned by doctors when she became pregnant that she could go blind if she had her baby.

But she was denied an abortion - illegal in most cases in Poland - and her eyesight subsequently deteriorated.

The court in Katowice, southern Poland, ruled that the Catholic magazine, Gosc Niedzielny, had drawn clear parallels between Ms Tysiac's desire to have an abortion and the actions of Nazi war criminals.

The judge said it had shown "contempt, hostility and malice" towards the 38-year-old woman.

The judge said Catholics have the right to express their disapproval of abortion and even call it murder, but they did not have the right to vilify individuals.

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Reply#1 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
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robynlewisTX.

So, did she go completely blind or not?

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#1.1 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:11 PM EDT
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Red Wolf

No idea from the article, but:

Ms Tysiac's sight problems grew worse following the births of each of her three children.

Via Catholic New Agency:

She eventually gave birth and afterwards suffered from a partially detached retina, which made her shortsightedness worse.

That's pretty serious. My mate with a detached retina needs a guide dog.

Not that it matters either way, because the point of the case was that the Catholic magazine had no right to personally vilify her because they took exception to her attempt to get an abortion. They have the right to oppose abortion, but not to attack individuals.

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#1.2 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:24 PM EDT
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robynlewisTX.

They only did it to shame her. Shame on them.

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#1.3 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:13 PM EDT
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REDaly

Yes, she's blind.

Poland allows the termination of a pregnancy until the 12th week but only if the mother's life is in danger, the fetus is irreparably damaged...

Neither of those conditions can usually be determined as early as 12 weeks. This effectively outlaws all abortion, no matter how great the need, by claiming those needs should have somehow been magically foreseen.

You can't publicly call someone a murderer who's getting away with it and then act "shocked" when someone takes it on themsleves to execute them. You might as well pull the trigger yourself.

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    Reply#2 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:47 PM EDT
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