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US Military rips away pet of deployed US Soldier shortly before Baghdad Pups can send puppy to safety in Minnesota

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One of my good college friends is in Iraq right now. A couple months ago, she told me about Baghdad Pups, a really amazing organization that provides medical care, clearance and transport for the animals U.S. soldiers have come to love during deployment in the Middle East.

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{"commentId":3432506,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

Baghdad Pups got hold of Ratchet and were evacuating him, but he was seized in transit. They got 15 other dogs out, but Ratchet still needs help.

It seems that Ratchet's no longer under immediate threat of death and this all just sounds like some arsehole throwing his weight around.

Katie has details on who to contact and how to help and there's an update from Gwen. Their best bet is publicity. If anyone can get the local US news to pick up the story, it will embarrass the army into action and Ratchet's seizure will suddenly become a technical error that's quickly resolved.

Baghdad Pups, run by the SPCA, desperately needs funds to help Ratchet and other dogs get transported to the US.

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Reply#1 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:07 AM EDT
{"commentId":3432663,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

This is an outrage! I feel so sorry for all these soldiers and the dogs they want to save. I will be following the links and offering my help in anyway I can. Thanks for the link.

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Reply#2 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:07 AM EDT
{"commentId":3432676,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

There's a petition on the SPCA site and Katie's site lists the details of the congress critters to contact and even provides an example letter.

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#2.1 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:10 AM EDT
{"commentId":3432698,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

Thanks I'll go find it.  congress critters Ha, I've not heard that before, but appropriate.

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#2.2 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:15 AM EDT
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{"commentId":3433949,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

Good story, Red Wolf, and great to see all these groups are out there working to make a rough situation in war-torn Iraq a bit more humanizing. Save these pets and keep these "families" together.

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Reply#3 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
{"commentId":3434154,"authorDomain":"darkdingo"}

OK, as a veteran, I know of the regulation against befriending animals, and I understand the reasoning behind it...

As a dog owner, I would be devastated if something happened to one of my dogs, and the loss would be felt very deeply and intensely, as I know it would also affect most animal lovers. Now imagine, you're an impressionable young adult, thousands of miles from home...you're in a combat zone with an enemy that will stop at nothing to demoralize you, and unfortunately these pets make easy targets--if they'll take the lives of their neighbors or even their own life to get to you, do you really think that they give a damn about an animal?

That said, it is unfair that the command has looked the other way in regard to this regulation and now suddenly want to selectively enforce the regulation. My suspicion is that either Ratchet's companion drew too much attention to the fact that the regulation is being ignored and someone higher up made note, or the companion may have inadvertently angered someone in her company and they decided to take it out on her this way (or possibly a combination of both).

Either way, it would be in the military's best interest (and the soldiers') to evacuate these animals and then begin enforcing the regulation.

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Reply#4 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
{"commentId":3436110,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

What you say Pappa Nick makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining it .

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#4.1 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":3438079,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

Sounds like a butter bars that got turned down for a 'date'...

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#4.2 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
{"commentId":3439554,"authorDomain":"darkdingo"}

Sounds like a butter bars that got turned down for a 'date'...

Good chance, but more likely someone from "higher command" got wind of all the publicity.

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  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":3440193,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

Considering that the major argument for bringing the dogs back is to fight against PTSD, you'd think it was in the best interests of all involved to help instead of allowing petty vindictiveness to occur.

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#4.4 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:28 PM EDT
{"commentId":3440871,"authorDomain":"darkdingo"}

True, and despite the regulation against it, people have quietly been rescuing these dogs, unfortunately due to all the publicity about these animals, all this does is expose them to even more danger making the animals valuable targets for terrorists...

not to repeat myself, but:

Either way, it would be in the military's best interest (and the soldiers') to evacuate these animals and then begin enforcing the regulation.

and let me add, in the animals' best interest.

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#4.5 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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{"commentId":3440533,"authorDomain":"Sim2Luv"}

I am sorry for the GI"s loss. But I also know first hand that there are already too many animals in the US that are in shelters or need to be and all need good, loving homes. The GI"s should be trying to get the people over there to set up a shelter and try to get the animals adopted over there instead of bringing them back to the US. Again, we have to many "homeless" animals here, and not enough homes.

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Reply#5 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":3440636,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

You appear to be missing the point. This isn't someone looking for a random pet, these are people who've bonded with an animal in a difficult situation.

While I agree that people should be adopting the local homeless animals, you've pretty much announced that they should abandon one dog to adopt another. You can't have it both ways.

Good luck with your plan to set up an animal shelter in a war zone.

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#5.1 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":3440893,"authorDomain":"darkdingo"}

The GI"s should be trying to get the people over there to set up a shelter and try to get the animals adopted over there instead of bringing them back to the US. Again, we have to many "homeless" animals here, and not enough homes.

at minimum, spaying and neutering strays

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  • 3 votes
#5.2 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
{"commentId":3445011,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

It wasn't a war zone until we made it into one...

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#5.3 - Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:42 AM EDT
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They have found at least one of these dogs positive for rabies. Another reason for the adoption in the US. Since 1980, every case of canine rabies in humans has been contracted from a dog outside the continental US.

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#5.5 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
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{"commentId":3472665,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

Ratchet's story is hitting the press outside of the US; via SBS in Australia:

More than 10,000 people have signed an online petition urging the US Army to let an Iraqi puppy come home with a soldier who fears that Ratchet could be killed if left behind.

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Reply#6 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:49 AM EDT
{"commentId":3472741,"authorDomain":"darkdingo"}

In June, a dog brought back to the US by Operation Baghdad Pups tested positive for rabies after it was euthanased for other health concerns.

That prompted a public health investigation, and the federal Centres for Disease Control and Prevention recommended immediate vaccination and six-month quarantine for the other animals on the shipment.

SPCA International spokeswoman Stephanie Scroggs said the group works closely with the CDC and meets agency requirements that specify animals that have not been vaccinated for at least 30 days prior to entering the United States be quarantined for at least 30 days.

OMG! So these dogs are not being given their inoculations and quarantined before transport to the U.S.????

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Reply#7 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:05 AM EDT
{"commentId":3472825,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

That shocked me too. Baghdad Pups is run by the SPCA and I would have expected them to check for rabies.

30 days quarantine seems short. Quarantine for imported pets coming into Australia is really long, but we also don't have rabies, maybe that's the difference.

Huh? I just looked it up, it's 30-120 days depending on origin of the animal. That's changed from the 3-6 months it used to be. It looks like the period has been shortened based on when a rabies test was taken prior to importation. It used to only be the racing industry that could bypass quarantine that fast and that got them a major outbreak of Equine Influenza last year.

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#7.1 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:23 AM EDT
{"commentId":3472852,"authorDomain":"darkdingo"}

I agree, I still would expect the 30 quarantine here after the shots and min 30 day quarantine over there...

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  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":3480801,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

That sounds loosely like what the routine is now, although details are too sketchy to determine.

I can understand the slip-up if this was an over-enthusiastic volunteer group, but the SPCA should have known better. Maybe they don't, quarantine in Australia is handled by AQIS and has nothing to do with the RSPCA, I just would have expect the US-equivalent to have had more of a bloody clue.

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#7.3 - Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:59 PM EDT
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{"commentId":3603968,"authorDomain":"redwolf"}

Ratchet made it to the US:

A black puppy decked out in a red, white and blue bandanna jumped out of his crate and wagged his tail at the airport Monday, three flights and two days after leaving Iraq en route to his new home with a U.S. soldier.

Army Spc. Gwen Beberg of Minneapolis says she couldn't have made it through her 13-month deployment without Ratchet, who she and another soldier rescued from a burning pile of trash in May. Ratchet, wearing a dog-bone-shaped collar with its name, will spend two nights in a kennel before flying to Minneapolis, where Beberg's parents will pick him up. Beberg is scheduled to return home next month.

"I'm very excited that Ratchet will be waiting for me when I get home from Iraq! Words can't describe it," Beberg said in an e-mail to friends and family. "I hope that Ratchet's story will inspire people to continue the efforts to bring more service members' animals home from Iraq and Afghanistan."

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Reply#8 - Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:24 AM EDT
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